Scarlet Slipping

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This interview has been conducted with Dawn Wagner of Scarlet Slipping.

Chain D.L.K.: It’s been a long time since we heard you left Trance To The Sun. What haveyou been doing in your spare life time?
Scarlet Slipping: When I left TTTS I moved to San Francisco and really struggled to keep myhead above water…I later moved to Minneapolis, Minnesota. Some seriousillness, depression and the death of my father really made things tough butI’ve worked hard to ground myself with a healthier lifestyle and movingforward with my music really helps.

Chain D.L.K.: I read a couple of music magazines articles who did an interview withAshkelon Sain. He said he fired you because you said you’re working on yoursolo project. What was your reaction when he terminated you from the group?
Scarlet Slipping: I saw it coming…Ash is a great guy and I wish some times we could have metwhen I was older. I jumped into TTS at about 17 years old…I was living inSioux City, IA and hopped on a greyhound bus with everything I could fit ina duffel bag and bam! I was in Santa Barbara and in TTTS…we startedrecording “Delirious” in about a week after my arrival…everything was movingreally fast.I think the termination of my part in TTTS came down to my inability toadjust and focus on priorities. I was so stubborn when we toured, everythingwas surreal for me, I was very depressed, I think Ash was too, the departureof Zoe from the band was really hard on him. It was a tough time in bothAsh’s life and mine.

Chain D.L.K.: Have you both seen each other or called and made up years later, which isnow?
Scarlet Slipping: Yes…I tracked him down to tell him how I felt about all that happened.We email frequently and have become much closer than we were when we saweach other everyday. I value his friendship and respect him as an artist.

Chain D.L.K.: You moved to Minneapolis from San Francisco, why the new transition and whatmade you want to go up north?
Scarlet Slipping: I needed to live somewhere that I could afford…for over a year in SF I livedin a storage closet and work several part time jobs…it just wasn’t workingfor me and I was totally homesick for a climate with 4 seasons (and to NOTlive in a storage closet).

Chain D.L.K.: Give us some of your music background experiences?
Scarlet Slipping: Well…I started playing violin at a young age (thanks to my mom), then when Iwas 15 I bought a Boss drum machine and totally schooled it…I startedprogramming like crazy and playing shows at the local punk club – The CattleClub Collective…Then I just started getting into more electronicequipment…mixers, synths, FX processors, all the yummy goodness of digitaland analog fun, I’m a total hardware freak, I don’t use software orcomputers for any of my music.

Chain D.L.K.: Who are your influences?
Scarlet Slipping: I wouldn’t say these are my influences…more so my inspirations, I loveSkinny Puppy, they will really get me in the mood to write. And Trance ToThe Sun’s first album Venomous Eve, that’s an inspirational album for me.

Chain D.L.K.: Your cd debut “Fire In The Mist” is mysterious, awesome, different,enchanting, and beautiful. What kind of ideas and images you had whenmaking the record?
Scarlet Slipping: Thanks! It’s really just a collaboration of songs that I was able to writeand record coming in and out of some heavy depressions. When I finallydecided to pull those pieces together for a CD I remember it was the dead ofwinter…I’d get all cozy in my studio with a glass of wine and candlelightand start working.

Chain D.L.K.: What kind of equipment do you used and how did you come about doingeverything yourself by recording your own tracks?
Scarlet Slipping: I use synths, drum machines, FX processors, digital mixers, like I saidbefore I don’t use software or computers, I try to keep it as “old school”as I can, but it’s getting more difficult, not a lot of room to upgrade butI enjoy the challenge. I guess I just decided to write and record by myselfbecause I’m such a loner, I couldn’t really image having someone elseinvolved.

Chain D.L.K.: As I was listening to your cd over and over again, I noticed a couple oftracks have a love song feel. Is it written for someone special in yourlife?
Scarlet Slipping: Yeah…those songs helped me purge the pain…lance the wound you might say.

Chain D.L.K.: Which song(s) is/are your favorite and explain why?
Scarlet Slipping: Oh…I really like “snowflake”. I wrote that when I was in San Francisco, itreally portrays my feelings of loss and fear…but in a creepy fairy tale sortof way.

Chain D.L.K.: Your songs definitely have a visual and colorful effect feel. I can imaginewhat some videos would be like if it was made. Which song(s) do you thinkwould be appropriate to make a video for?
Scarlet Slipping: Appropriate? Hmmm…Chartreuse Moon would be a fun one…could get down rightevil with that one I think.

Chain D.L.K.: What do you feel is the most significant change in your life; personally andmusically?
Scarlet Slipping: Leaving San Francisco. I had some very close friends out there that hadmoved there from my hometown…They were in a band called Slave One…thingswere really messed up though…our lives together out there were not as we hadhoped. We failed our mission and our friendships fell apart. Took me a longtime to get over that one, they were my best friends. It still makes me sad.

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Chain D.L.K.: Since your relocation to Minneapolis, how’s everything working out for youand your music career?
Scarlet Slipping: Things in Minneapolis are good. I’m working on some new tracks and myboyfriend Wes and I started a metal band, we both write the songs. We hopeto release something in a year or so.

Chain D.L.K.: Where are some of the places there you have performed live and what’s thecrowd like?
Scarlet Slipping: I played a lot of places across the West coast and Midwest when I touredwith Ash…one place in Arizona was seriously a pizza parlor…that was arough show, we were playing to tables of frat boys shoving their faces withpizza and beer, they didn’t really like us very much. But for the most partcrowds are really different depending on what region of the country yourin…at least it seemed that way to me.My favorite places were in Seattle and Denver.I played a lot here in Mineapolis when I first moved here in 1999…mostlyplayed at bars that feature bands regularly, but the darkwave scene isn’tthe most popular around here so you end up getting booked with sort of aneclectic mix of musicians. The crowds are always pretty attentive…I mean whywouldn’t you be if you paid 6 bucks to get in?

Chain D.L.K.: More women are now getting into the gothic scene by making music, startingtheir own fashion clothing line with other accessories, and music store thatcarries music, t-shirts, and other merchandise. Do you think women are moreactive involve in the scene because men dominated the scene for a long timein the past?
Scarlet Slipping: Oh I don’t really know, I really don’t go clubbing in the scene like I usedto but I can imagine women might be more active in the gothic “look” becausethe style of clothing is becoming easier to come by and it looks classy.

Chain D.L.K.: Why the name Scarlet Slipping and what’s the meaning behind it?
Scarlet Slipping: That’s not a very fun story…I’ll pass.

Chain D.L.K.: What’s next for you?
Scarlet Slipping: Well, I’d like to really get moving with the metal band that Wes and I havestarted, the songs we have been working on are pretty kick-ass. And I’mpretty excited about some new things I’ve been writing for Scarlet Slipping.

Chain D.L.K.: When can we expect a new cd in the future and what will it belike?
Scarlet Slipping: I’m not sure when it will be released. I never know how things are going tounfold…but I do have plans for the next CD.

Chain D.L.K.: It’s good to hear that you’re back in the music scene. Wish you lots oflove and success with your music. Stay in touch.
Scarlet Slipping: Thank you…

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