In spite of his long-lasting militance within various music-related fields, important collaborations with quite famous bands such as The Lost Domain and The Deadnotes and his many imprints on the Australian music scene, most praises to Eugene Carchesio aka DNE, have been mainly coming in from his eager activity in video-art. So much so that Lawrence English‘s Room 40 decided to dust off his huge electronic archives in order to introduce listener to his sonic research by means of a series of releases. On the occasion of the first one, “Circle Music“, which is mainly based on acrobatic juggling with drum machine emulators’ patterns that he seems to destroy by means of detuning filters and oscillators before then re-assembling them, we had a chat with this shadow player.
Chain D.L.K.: Hi Eugene. How are you?
Eugene Carchesio: It is very hot here so that it is hard to concentrate on anything. But life is constant change so here we go…
Chain D.L.K.: Compliments on your recent release… it would seem you desiccated techno grooves in order to cleanse them from their beats, doesn’t it?
Eugene Carchesio: Thank you… that is a nice way to put it!
Chain D.L.K.: Many tracks sound like they are entirely built on effected drum machine pulses and VCO’s or emulators like the Propellerhead ones. What equipment do you use?
Eugene Carchesio: Yes I think it was Propellerhead but my computer was old and did not allow me to save anything so I had to record everything ‘live’ onto a mini-disk. No overdubs.
Chain D.L.K.: Some people might prefer to define your sound as focused on loops. What’s the difference between a “circle” and a “loop” in your own words?
Eugene Carchesio: Maybe a loop is a fraction of a circle and a circle implies movement / ideals / love. Worlds move within worlds / constant flux…
Chain D.L.K.: Your sessions are really mind blowing, but what’s your basis for comparison (if there is any) to help you recognize a good track?
Eugene Carchesio: Thank you, but everything is part of the minimal family… If something is ‘real’ then it is generally good!
Chain D.L.K.: You are a video-artist as well… what are the main intersections between visuals and sounds in your declension of art?
Eugene Carchesio: I have been a practicing artist for nearly 30 years but I have only just started producing video images to accompany the computer performances. I have always been interested in sound/music and art. Some days I need to work with images others I work with sound. Some images suggest sound. Some sounds suggest images…
Chain D.L.K.: You had a certain influence on the Australian music scene by means of some collaborations as well… what’s your perspective on that? In these times of copy’n’paste-based compositions and stylistic drift, is there any specific aspect which makes the Australian scene really different from other ones?
Eugene Carchesio: Maybe Lawrence could best talk on that!
Chain D.L.K.: How did you get in touch with Lawrence English?
Eugene Carchesio: It is a very small music scene in Brisbane and you eventually get to meet everyone who’s doing anything interesting. He is a generous and open person with lots of positive energy who is responsible for organizing many amazing events.
Chain D.L.K.: Any forthcoming projects? What’s boiling in the pot with other collaborations (The Lost Domain, The Deadnotes)?
Eugene Carchesio: Just small gigs with my rock trio called Fig.
Chain D.L.K.: Many electronic musicians went down in the annals… are there any musicians (or technicians) without whom your music could never have existed in your opinion?
Eugene Carchesio: Sun Ra / Moondog / Pansonic / Noto – Raster Noton / Wolgang Voigt (early Profan stuff) / SND…
Chain D.L.K.: Would you define your art as idiosyncratic?
Eugene Carchesio: I hope this doesn’t sound stupid but I like to analyze the space between spaces…
Chain D.L.K.: Due to the above-mentioned copy’n’paste compositional logics, many people think that the figure of the true author is fading away… do you agree with such an assertion? What’s the role of an artist in your opinion?
Eugene Carchesio: Firstly if you have to consider your role as an artist then something is not right. I think it must be hard (or maybe too easy) for young artists with the history of art & music available freely on the internet and you quickly learn everything has been done and every version of everything has also been done. I think what is lost is ‘context’. I remember buying my first YES, ELP, Zappa LP’s in the 70’s and being overwhelmed by amazing music and mysterious sounds and slightly later on with anything punk. It was very hard finding out about this stuff and radio stations certainly weren’t playing it. Every sound was a personal experience and even sharing it with people was rare because there was almost no audience for anything outside the mainstream.
Chain D.L.K.: Any possibility to see you perform outside Australia?
Eugene Carchesio: Wouldn’t that be lovely…